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Lutheran Theology Chat Thread - 6/19/2008 9:24:38 AM
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JesKlu
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This is a thread for Lutherans to come and fellowship.
Soli Deo Gloria!
Jessica
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RE: Lutheran Theology Chat Thread - 6/19/2008 12:22:16 PM
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drussell52
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ORIGINAL: JesKlu
This is a thread for Lutherans to come and fellowship.
Soli Deo Gloria!
Jessica
Hi Jessica and others. This is David, also known as drussell52, and posed a question which a couple of you answered graciously concerning word and sacrament, a few weeks ago. I also have an interest in another aspect of faith and participate on another forum relative to that, Messianic Judaism. Per this forum, I attend an ELCA congregation with my wife and 2 teenage kids, i.e. our son and daughter. Son is working at Camp Michaluka this summer on maintenance, first job EVER for him as he is age 17.. I hope 1 day both kids have a vibrant faith! At our church I am active in music, praiseband and also play for regular worship, and write a monthly column for our newsletter based on some aspect of Hebrew heritage be it a word or concept, next month doing the benediction recorded in Numbers 6, The Lord Bless and Keep You. Hoping to start a study group in mid fall, covering Hebraic roots and involve any from our church and another congregation; hope is to have something ongoing and even celebrate the passover together annually. So far, no takers.. Personally, I enjoy novels, baseball, gotta XM Satelliet Radio for father's day, enjoy swimming, walks, Bible study, and work as a Medical Transcriptionist from home, hope to retire, yes retire in 10 to 15 years. I am glad to be on this forum, and would describe myself as a tolerant Lutheran as some of my tehology has changed over the past couple years. See you-s again soon gotta go eat some lunch then get back to work. May the LORD bless and keep us!
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RE: Lutheran Theology Chat Thread - 6/27/2008 9:52:13 PM
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When is your wedding, Jessica?
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RE: Lutheran Theology Chat Thread - 6/28/2008 3:46:35 PM
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JesKlu
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When is your wedding, Jessica?
Oh, I thought I announced it on the 2008 Wedding thread. I am now a married woman! I just got married on the 21st. I will send some pics.
Your sister in Christ Jesus,
Jessica
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RE: Lutheran Theology Chat Thread - 6/29/2008 11:49:59 AM
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Jessica,
Congratulations on your new life with Peter!
Heavendweller
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RE: Lutheran Theology Chat Thread - 7/18/2008 8:00:08 PM
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Hello Jessica my Lovely wife!
Lutheran Theology Chat Thread
What should we chat about in this Lutheran Theology of ours?
What is Lutheran Theology?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lutheran_theology
Does this site help explain what we are in?
PeterD
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RE: Lutheran Theology Chat Thread - 7/18/2008 10:14:53 PM
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JesKlu
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Hello Jessica my Lovely wife!
Lutheran Theology Chat Thread
What should we chat about in this Lutheran Theology of ours?
What is Lutheran Theology?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lutheran_theology
Does this site help explain what we are in?
PeterD
Hello Peter!
You asked me what I thought of this site. I thought it was intresting and informative. I'll still be reading. But some of the subjects did remind me of this site.
http://www.orthodoxresearchinstitute.org/articles/dogmatics/golubov_rags_of_mortality.htm
I disagree with a little bit of how they believe in original sin. I do agree with them on the basis that we inherit sin because at the Fall, sin is also of a generic nature, and we inherit original sin through genetics, our DNA.
But they as a whole, do not believe human nature is so corrupt that we do not excercise free will in the work of salvation. They believe we still free will in that area. Where St Augustine, and Luther who shared his views, do not believe we excercise free will in salvation, if anything it is impossible, because our will is bound to sin.
Original Sin
5] 1. And first, it is true that Christians should regard and recognize as sin not only the actual transgression of God's commandments; but also that the horrible, dreadful hereditary malady by which the entire nature is corrupted should above all things be regarded and recognized as sin indeed, yea, as the chief sin, which is a root and fountain-head of all actual sins. 6] And by Dr. Luther it is called a nature-sin or person-sin, thereby to indicate that, even though a person would think, speak, or do nothing evil (which, however, is impossible in this life, since the fall of our first parents), his nature and person are nevertheless sinful, that is, thoroughly and utterly infected and corrupted before God by original sin, as by a spiritual leprosy; and on account of this corruption and because of the fall of the first man the nature or person is accused or condemned by God's Law, so that we are by nature the children of wrath, death, and damnation, unless we are delivered therefrom by the merit of Christ.
7] 2. In the second place, this, too, is clear and true, as the Nineteenth Article of the Augsburg Confession teaches, that God is not a creator, author, or cause of sin, but by the instigation of the devil through one man sin (which is a work of the devil) has entered the world, Rom. 5, 12; 1 John 3, 7. And even at the present day, in this corruption [in this corruption of nature], God does not create and make sin in us, but with the nature which God at the present day still creates and makes in men original sin is propagated from sinful seed, through carnal conception and birth from father and mother.
11] 3. That original sin (in human nature) is not only this entire absence of all good in spiritual, divine things, but that, instead of the lost image of God in man, it is at the same time also a deep, wicked, horrible, fathomless, inscrutable, and unspeakable corruption of the entire nature and all its powers, especially of the highest, principal powers of the soul in the understanding, heart, and will, so that now, since the Fall, man inherits an inborn wicked disposition and inward impurity of heart, evil lust and propensity; 12] that we all by disposition and nature inherit from Adam such a heart, feeling, and thought as are, according to their highest powers and the light of reason, naturally inclined and disposed directly contrary to God and His chief commandments, yea, that they are enmity against God, especially as regards divine and spiritual things. For in other respects, as regards natural, external things which are subject to reason, man still has to a certain degree understanding, power, and ability, although very much weakened, all of which, however, has been so infected and contaminated by original sin that before God it is of no use.
http://www.bookofconcord.org/fc-sd/originalsin.html
Soli Deo Gloria!
Jessica
< Message edited by JesKlu -- 7/19/2008 4:20:01 PM >
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RE: Lutheran Theology Chat Thread - 7/19/2008 4:25:05 PM
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JesKlu
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Hey all!
Pirate Christian radio is now going on, it is now on air!
http://www.piratechristianradio.com/
For all who liked Issues Etc., be ready!
Your sister in Christ Jesus,
Jessica
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RE: Lutheran Theology Chat Thread - 8/26/2008 11:00:39 PM
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PeterD
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Hello family and friends
Just to let the Lutherans on this forum know, Jessica is
hanging out on this other site where alot of pastors
talk!!! Jessica is mainly found under General Discussions.
http://www.lutherquest.org/cgi-bin/discus40/discus.cgi
and Jessica has been calling up that radio station
http://www.piratechristianradio.com/ and now my
Church pastor suggest's that Jessica should be signed
up as a guest.
Pray for us, for Jessica and myself that we will be following
the Lord Jesus and not mere men who usaully have short
lived hopes.
Peter Daniel
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RE: Lutheran Theology Chat Thread - 9/1/2008 3:12:01 PM
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Hi. I'm new to this thing and would like to open up with a question regarding the Lutheran doctrine of the Real Presence or consubstantiation. If Christ is in us and we in Him (John 14:20) why is it necessary that we imbibe His
Presence in the communion meal? If we receive forgiveness with the confession of sin (I John 1:9), why do we need to recieve forgiveness through the partaking of the Lord's Supper as a "means of Grace"? I pose these questions as a former calvinist that is amazed by what our gracious God has done and taught through His servant Dr. Martin Luther. 
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RE: Lutheran Theology Chat Thread - 9/24/2008 11:54:48 PM
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PeterD
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Hello family and friends
To let all of you know Jessica has been directed to this forum by LCMS pastors http://wittenbergtrail.ning.com/ and I'll remind Jessica about the forum crosswalk.
PeterD
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RE: Lutheran Theology Chat Thread - 11/6/2008 1:52:11 AM
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PeterD
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Hello Jessica...
Are you coming back to crosswalk soon?
Peter Daniel
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RE: Lutheran Theology Chat Thread - 11/6/2008 9:35:47 PM
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JesKlu
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Hi. I'm new to this thing and would like to open up with a question regarding the Lutheran doctrine of the Real Presence or consubstantiation. If Christ is in us and we in Him (John 14:20) why is it necessary that we imbibe His
Presence in the communion meal? If we receive forgiveness with the confession of sin (I John 1:9), why do we need to recieve forgiveness through the partaking of the Lord's Supper as a "means of Grace"? I pose these questions as a former calvinist that is amazed by what our gracious God has done and taught through His servant Dr. Martin Luther.
Hello cadrey2k8,
We always need to constantly be forgiven of our sins, because we still sin even if we are believers. That's why we do public confession and absolution in our services. Christ's Words at the Lord's Supper explain our belief of the Real Presence.
Our Lord Jesus Christ, the same night in which He was betrayed, took bread; and when He had given thanks, He broke it, and gave it to His disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is My body, which is given for you: this do in remembrance of Me.
After the same manner also He took the cup when He had supped, gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink of it all of you; this cup is the new testament in My blood, which is shed for you for the remission of sins: this do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.
These words are the last will and testament of the Son of God. That is the reason why we take these words literally. If the last will and testament of a mere man is sacred, how much more is the last will and testament of the Son of God! A testament must be taken at face value.
Take eat, this is my body. Drink of it all of you, this is my blood. That is quite simple. How it becomes the body and blood, we can't answer. It is a mystery of God and we don't explain the unexplainable. That is where the Roman Catholics get their transubstantiation doctrine from, by trying to explain what happens when the words are said. Lutherans don't explain how it happens, because we don't know. So we believe these words of Christ by faith that the Sacrament of the Altar is truly the body and blood of Christ. We take them at face value. This is where the Lutheran Church stands.
Soli Deo Gloria,
Jessica
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