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Teaching question - 11/24/2008 12:44:35 PM
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Rick4Him
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I am attending a new church where the Sunday School teacher keeps referring to Benny Hinn, Rod Parsley and Perry Stone to support the study we are in, which is currently the Book of John. I'm not too concerned about the issues the teacher brings up. When ever she quotes from these TBN fellows it usually scripturally sound topics. However as some you know these men are peddling false teachings and I'm afraid the members sitting in the class are going to look to these men for solid Biblical teaching.
Since I'm new to the church, should I say anything to the teacher? I'm thinking about just coming to her and asking her just to be careful what she hears from these men. What do you all think?
Rick
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RE: Teaching question - 11/24/2008 1:04:02 PM
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I would mention to the teacher in private that you would greatly appreciate them not using fallable man to suffort infallable Scripture. Just say that you would appreciate more Scripture and less of man's opinions.
Try to stay out of personalities of the WOF characters if at all possible.
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RE: Teaching question - 11/24/2008 2:11:58 PM
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I would speak to her in private and to your pastor. I wonder if he knows and appreciates that the Sunday school is using documented false teachers and false prophets as counsel on God's Word.
It is alarming that someone placed in a teaching position is not aware of the false teachings, heretical claims and false prophecies these individuals have made and continue to make.
This is what started to happen in my old church and it became a very serious issue. Error begets error.
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RE: Teaching question - 11/25/2008 9:14:54 AM
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Rick4Him
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Thanks RC and earthless,
I do believe I will approach the Pastor as I know him better than the teacher and see what his take is on this issue. If he praises the WOFers then it may be a deeper problem.
Rick
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RE: Teaching question - 11/25/2008 6:03:45 PM
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jn1010lf
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Hello Rick4Him
Are you sure the men you quoted are presenting false teaching? Have you ever heard any of them? Have you ever read any of their books?
Personally, I'm not fond of Perry Stone, I see him as emphasizing Jewish things. I believe the Christ is the fulfillment of it all, so why be concerned about that.
Rod Parsely, I can't stand. Not becuase he teaches false doctrine but I just don't like fire and brimstone preaching.
Now as for Binny Hinn, I don't especially follow him but let me say that I see him doing the things that Jesus did when He walked the earth; heal the sick, raise the dead, deliver the oppressed, etc.
So, I think one is on some dangerous ground when attacking these guys as false teachers. If they are genuine then one may be blashpeming the Holy Spirit and that ain't no light thing to consider.
I tell you what. If these guys are false teachers, then when is a genuine teacher ordained by God that preaches truth?
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RE: Teaching question - 11/25/2008 6:18:47 PM
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Hello Rick4Him
Are you sure the men you quoted are presenting false teaching? Have you ever heard any of them? Have you ever read any of their books?
Personally, I'm not fond of Perry Stone, I see him as emphasizing Jewish things. I believe the Christ is the fulfillment of it all, so why be concerned about that.
Rod Parsely, I can't stand. Not becuase he teaches false doctrine but I just don't like fire and brimstone preaching.
Now as for Binny Hinn, I don't especially follow him but let me say that I see him doing the things that Jesus did when He walked the earth; heal the sick, raise the dead, deliver the oppressed, etc.
So, I think one is on some dangerous ground when attacking these guys as false teachers. If they are genuine then one may be blashpeming the Holy Spirit and that ain't no light thing to consider....
This is why I suggested to stay out of personalities and keep the conversation on the Word confirming the Word and not a man (any man) confirming the Word.
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RE: Teaching question - 11/26/2008 1:17:25 PM
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Rick4Him
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quote:
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Hello Rick4Him
Are you sure the men you quoted are presenting false teaching? Have you ever heard any of them? Have you ever read any of their books?
Personally, I'm not fond of Perry Stone, I see him as emphasizing Jewish things. I believe the Christ is the fulfillment of it all, so why be concerned about that.
Rod Parsely, I can't stand. Not becuase he teaches false doctrine but I just don't like fire and brimstone preaching.
Now as for Binny Hinn, I don't especially follow him but let me say that I see him doing the things that Jesus did when He walked the earth; heal the sick, raise the dead, deliver the oppressed, etc.
So, I think one is on some dangerous ground when attacking these guys as false teachers. If they are genuine then one may be blashpeming the Holy Spirit and that ain't no light thing to consider.
I tell you what. If these guys are false teachers, then when is a genuine teacher ordained by God that preaches truth?
jn101,
Yes I have listened to and watched all three. As for Stone, I haven't actually heard anything contray to scripture from him, but I referenced him because this teacher is quoting him. If she quotes Parsley and Hinn, I guess I assumed Stone was right there with them in false teaching.
However I can't believe you think Benny Hinn is above suspiscion. He has made so many false prophetic claims it isn't funny. Him and Parsley both preach this SEED ministry that soaks weak minded souls of their hard earned money. They play on peoples emotions (tickle their ears) and decieve many.
Rick
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RE: Teaching question - 11/26/2008 4:07:26 PM
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Seems like some of us need to study those we claim are doing God's work.
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RE: Teaching question - 11/26/2008 5:11:02 PM
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Now as for Binny Hinn, I don't especially follow him but let me say that I see him doing the things that Jesus did when He walked the earth; heal the sick, raise the dead, deliver the oppressed, etc.  HOLY DUCK POOP! Since when has Binny raised the dead?  If he can raise the dead, then he would have a whole lot more believers in his ministry, not to mention, homes on the Riveira.
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So, I think one is on some dangerous ground when attacking these guys as false teachers. If they are genuine then one may be blashpeming the Holy Spirit and that ain't no light thing to consider. It ain't no light thing to say that any human being can raise the dead either.
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I tell you what. If these guys are false teachers, then when is a genuine teacher ordained by God that preaches truth?
When they do not lead their public to say things like they can raise the dead, even if it is only a freudian slip! Do you actually hold Binny Hinn next to Jesus for comparison? I really think that Jesus was a little more conservative and a whole lot less flamboyount with His money than Binny Boy is.
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RE: Teaching question - 11/26/2008 5:19:34 PM
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Benny Hinn...
The man who is a false prophet.
The man who preaches a false Jesus.
The man who preaches a false Gospel.
The man who wishes he had a "holy ghost machine gun" so he can blow the heads off of those that test his teachings, claims and prophecies in light of Scripture.
The man who said Adam could fly to the moon in an instant.
The man who makes merchandise of men.
The man who has never provided ONE single case of an actual healing.
The man who preaches the heretical Word of Faith message and continues to do so.
The man who has made dozens of false prophecies.
The man who said God is a 9 person Trinity.
The man whose wife said we need a "holy ghost enema".
The man who lied about his conversion experience.
The man who curses anyone that does what Scripture mandates them to do - which is to test all things in light of Scripture.
I could go and on and on.
But yeah.. he is just like Jesus?
Sorry, but I could not believe that comment.
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RE: Teaching question - 11/26/2008 5:50:15 PM
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Binny's Hired Henchmen screen and weed out the genuinely begging, pleading, desperate needy people who are placing their faith in God to use this man to heal them. I know this as I have personally known many of the truly desperate people; paraplegics, leukemia, HIV positive children, etc. who have been turned away during the screening process for some of Binny's extravaganzas.
Jesus never turned his back on the needy.
Jesus also said," The least of which you do unto them, you do also unto me".
Binny has done unto many and God is keeping score. I'm sure He has a special little scoreboard for those like Binny, who come in His name and mislead the meek, the mild, and the vulnerable.
Speak to the Preacher about the teacher!
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