Do you think it would be okay to have a UFC get together at my place?
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Do you think it would be okay to have a UFC get together at my place?
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Do you think it would be okay to have a UFC get togethe... - 1/12/2008 9:47:02 PM
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lllvibelll
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We are thinking of having some friends over to watch the UFC pay per view event next Saturday, and we don't know if this is acceptable for us to partake in as devoted Christians? Any thoughts?
*UFC stands for Ultimate Fighting Championship (mixed martial arts)
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RE: Do you think it would be okay to have a UFC get tog... - 1/13/2008 4:37:49 AM
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Not familiar with that event, so am limited in whatever response, but it sounds like a sporting event, which is one reason I often have friends over and see no harm in it. We are huge football fans as is most of our friends so it has always been fun and I can't see how it would be negative for a Christian to enjoy sports, food, fun, and fellowship.
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RE: Do you think it would be okay to have a UFC get tog... - 1/13/2008 11:14:36 AM
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lllvibelll
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Yeah, I'm not sure if there is or isn't (thought I'm thinking there isn't) ...it is a "sanctioned sporting event"...but I suppose it could be construed as violence? Mostly just wanted input from others to see what they thought...
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RE: Do you think it would be okay to have a UFC get tog... - 1/13/2008 11:48:45 AM
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ManimalX
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Do a search for the big UFC thread that has been going on for the last several months.
Some people have problems with UFC because it is violent.
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RE: Do you think it would be okay to have a UFC get tog... - 1/13/2008 3:27:31 PM
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Kath
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Here is the older UFC thread if you wish to read it.
moving this from General Faith to Morality/Ethics
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RE: Do you think it would be okay to have a UFC get tog... - 1/13/2008 4:19:08 PM
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lllvibelll
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Okay, thanks guys. Tried to search before I posted, but I'm relatively new here and used the wrong search function (Doh!). Decided I'm going to go ahead and host it...For the same reason ManimalX posted in the other thread (I appreciate the skilled/technical aspect of the sport)
Thanks again, guys!
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RE: Do you think it would be okay to have a UFC get tog... - 1/13/2008 11:10:11 PM
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Hope everyone has a good time and good fellowship!
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RE: Do you think it would be okay to have a UFC get tog... - 1/17/2008 10:10:24 PM
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I think the Bible is quite clear on the fact that this would be immoral.
I quote directly from John chapter 3 verse 37:
"And the Lord went upon them saying, 'Yea! Never shall thou gatherest together in twos and threes to partake of moderately priced domestic beers and packaged potato crisps so that thou mayest view grown men beating the snot out of each other in the fellowship of thine friends. For just as the Boysenberry bush is choked at the root when planted in rocky soil, so shall thine soul be choked of life if thou plantest the seeds of thine interests in the garden of pay-per-view entertainment. For I tell ye now, in my Father's house there are many rooms, and not one of these comes equipped with basic cable."
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RE: Do you think it would be okay to have a UFC get tog... - 1/20/2008 12:46:53 AM
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Timcp
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You "fellowship" with the fighters themselves by tuning into those events. I would hope as a Christian, you wouldn't condone fornication. Yet, look at the way fighters live their lives, why then support their livelihood by watching them on TV?
2 Corinthians: 14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
Notice what Chuck Liddell had to say:
UFC-Chuck Liddell speaks out on his Lady Situation
By DHB (July 15, 2006)
Liddell as quoted by newsday.com responded: "We don't do bad, (in regards to the lady situation.) It wasn't always like this, some of the stuff surprised me. One time after an event there were a bunch of us hanging out in my room. There was this girl that came up to my room, and I was hanging with some other girl. She said: 'Hey, you invited me up here to
party. If I stick around am I going to get some action?' I was laying on my bed with some girl. It was one of the beds that was in the party room, like a big couch. There were 30 or 40 people in the room. So I was like 'Sure. I'm hanging out with this girl right now, but relax.' She said 'OK' and went inside and waited."
Liddell added: "Some girls say: 'Oh, it's not because of who you are,'" he said. "And I say, 'OK, come on. If it was me three years ago, you didn't know who I was, you wouldn't have put up with that.'"
Source of Quotes - Joe Fernandez, Newsday.com
http://www.doghouseboxing.com/chee/chee_071506u.htm
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (The whole Chapter should be read really)
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
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RE: Do you think it would be okay to have a UFC get tog... - 1/20/2008 1:26:54 AM
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Timcp
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Yes, we should look to Hollywood and any other professional sport and make the same
assessment. You wouldn't watch a Hollywood movie that used your mothers' name as a filthy curse word.
So why should we watch movies that use our Lords' name as a filthy curse word? That's why I don't watch movies with blasphemy in them, among other things too.
That would have been alright to say "yes you are a role model" right to the TV as you change the channel.
You've heard vote with your dollar, well you can vote with your Bible and your dollar too.
"The only way you're going to completely avoid "fellowshipping" with any "sinners" would be to avoid contact with anyone that sins. And since you can't get away from yourself, that's impossible. (You may want to read that one again.)"
I have read it a lot. 1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
Christians are not like them at all, they aren't washed as we are. They don't have Jesus Christ as an advocate to confess theirs sins to. Who is just to forgive us of those sins. They are dead in their sins.
Because they don't believe in Jesus Christ and that is why I don't reward them with my viewer ratings which brings their organizations and their fighters millions of dollars.
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You "fellowship" with the fighters themselves by tuning into those events. I would hope as a Christian, you wouldn't condone fornication. Yet, look at the way fighters live their lives, why then support their livelihood by watching them on TV? In that case, shouldn't we be looking to Hollywood and making the same assessment? Or to other professional sports?
I remember Charles Barkley (sp?) saying, "I am not a role model. I am an athlete." I wanted to say, "Yes you are a role model," but I would have been talking to the television. 
The only way you're going to completely avoid "fellowshipping" with any "sinners" would be to avoid contact with anyone that sins. And since you can't get away from yourself, that's impossible. (You may want to read that one again.)
Seriously, watching Chuck Liddell in the octagon is not the same as condoning his activities IMO.
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RE: Do you think it would be okay to have a UFC get tog... - 1/20/2008 2:38:50 AM
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Well tomorrow hubby and I are going to fellowship with the Green Bay Packers, San Diego Chargers, nachos, margaritas(Me), and imported german beer(him).
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RE: Do you think it would be okay to have a UFC get tog... - 1/20/2008 4:14:53 PM
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I personally wouldn't do it. From the little I've seen of UFC, it's way too violent for me. I mean, at least sports like football have rules. This just looks two gladiators getting it on. But, like I said, that's just me.
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RE: Do you think it would be okay to have a UFC get tog... - 12/3/2008 12:49:40 AM
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Timcp
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A prominent fighter admits himself that fighting is violent.
Go to youtube and type in: UFC Frank Shamrock EZWTV NERVOUS
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RE: Do you think it would be okay to have a UFC get tog... - 12/3/2008 1:08:02 AM
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You "fellowship" with the fighters themselves by tuning into those events. I would hope as a Christian, you wouldn't condone fornication. Yet, look at the way fighters live their lives, why then support their livelihood by watching them on TV?
If I told you I sinned, would you stop posting on here, because you're fellowshipping with me?
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RE: Do you think it would be okay to have a UFC get tog... - 12/3/2008 10:18:07 AM
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You wouldn't watch a Hollywood movie that used your mothers' name as a filthy curse word.
Actually, I would. Movies should evoke an emotional response, and as long as the movie wasn't meant for the sole purpose of offending me (like, say, Religulous, or however that title is spelled), I'd have no problem with it.
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The only way you're going to completely avoid "fellowshipping" with any "sinners" would be to avoid contact with anyone that sins.
Ah, I see. We should be not of the world and not in the world. Gotcha.
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RE: Do you think it would be okay to have a UFC get tog... - 12/3/2008 10:50:16 PM
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Timcp
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To any Christian reading this, especially the young, under 25.
The main point is that in any dojo across the world. What they tell you is to avoid a fight. Fighting is the last resort. So to use self defense is only in case of last resort.
Look up words synonymous with Martial, you get warlike, military, soldierly etc. Words synonymous with Art are skill, talent. So Martial Art is Warlike Skill. What pro boxing and cage fighting does, is exploiting self defense and the skill that goes along with it; by turning it into a sport, business, and entertainment.
The friendship part is just another aspect, it takes place when we watch, we are in agreement with what they're doing and how they live their lives. We give them ratings and dollars for tuning in. You heard the fighter himself if you watched the video, he thought two things don't go better than two of the oldest professions fornication and fighting. And he himself called it violence.
I'm just talking these things out like anybody else. Ultimately you decide between the two views. But just as it is known that marijuana is seen as a gateway to more harder forms of intoxication. So is the possibility of watching fighting a gateway to compromise and sin. So if one is warned of the two views before hand, then we are in a better position to make a decision and recognize the signs of compromise or sin.
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If I told you I sinned, would you stop posting on here, because you're fellowshipping with me?
I would still be friends with you because you are a Christian, but to them who don't believe I wouldn't hold such a friendship as close as I would with other Christians. Even if you do continue to watch it. Like I said it is always good to listen to both sides.
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RE: Do you think it would be okay to have a UFC get tog... - 12/3/2008 11:00:50 PM
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Timcp
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You know the sorry part of Hollywood these days? Is that they used to have a line drawn that they wouldn't cross. And using the Lords' name in vain was one of them. Did you know that there was a time when the entertainment industry was bound by a code that forbade them from using any blasphemy in a movie? Called the “Hays Code”? Check this site out if you're interested: http://www.hollywoodandgod.com/
Or if you get a chance read the book titled: Hollywood Be Thy Name by Ray Comfort.
It is good information, because when you stand back and look at Hollywood, you can start to see it as you would a line graph, and how it starts out moral and has gone to the point of open ridicule of Christianity.
This is why, you don't see movies use blasphemy to Buddha, Islam or anything else, but they throw out the name of Jesus Christ in the context of a filthy curse word. It's not just Bill Mahers' open garbage, it is mainstream prime time too.
That is just the sad history. Using blasphemy and justifying it because it creates emotion, do you think God would accept that? God said don't take the Lords' name in vain, he didn't say why or why not, he said don't do it. It is a commandment. It is easy to get sucked into Hollywood's line of thinking, until I watched Ray Comfort talking about it and looked at the big picture. My Mom isn't a believer and I think I make the mistake of watching flicks with her so she doesn't see me as a prude or something. But man, you hear the garbage that comes out of their mouth and it makes me want to leave the room. So when I'm on my own I vote with my Bible and change the channel.
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Actually, I would. Movies should evoke an emotional response, and as long as the movie wasn't meant for the sole purpose of offending me (like, say, Religulous, or however that title is spelled), I'd have no problem with it.
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RE: Do you think it would be okay to have a UFC get tog... - 12/3/2008 11:13:33 PM
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Timcp,
Do you realize that taking the Lord's name in vain doesn't mean saying Oh my God (God isn't his name) or saying Jesus Christ?
Taking the Lord's name in vain means claiming you follow Him and living a life contrary. It's also about making vows to God and having no intention of actually doing it.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not condoning people using Jesus Christ as a curse word or God but just letting you know that simply saying Oh my God isn't what talking the Lord's name in vain means.
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RE: Do you think it would be okay to have a UFC get tog... - 12/3/2008 11:27:06 PM
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Timcp
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Timcp,
Do you realize that taking the Lord's name in vain doesn't mean saying Oh my God (God isn't his name) or saying Jesus Christ?
Taking the Lord's name in vain means claiming you follow Him and living a life contrary. It's also about making vows to God and having no intention of actually doing it.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not condoning people using Jesus Christ as a curse word or God but just letting you know that simply saying Oh my God isn't what talking the Lord's name in vain means.
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
Where do you get this information?
You would disagree with Ray Comfort, I'm just wondering why you don't think taking the Lords' name in vain is not blasphemy?
I do see your point of saying you follow God and Jesus, but not living it out and that is vain.
To get to the point I should have said using the name of God or Jesus in blasphemy or cursing.
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RE: Do you think it would be okay to have a UFC get tog... - 12/3/2008 11:53:21 PM
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Using blasphemy and justifying it because it creates emotion, do you think God would accept that?
Let's take this back to the original subject for a moment - violence. The Bible is one of the most violent books in history. Should we stay away from the Bible because of its violent content?
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God said don't take the Lords' name in vain, he didn't say why or why not, he said don't do it. It is a commandment.
It's also a commandment not to lie. Would you watch a movie/TV show where someone told a lie?
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RE: Do you think it would be okay to have a UFC get tog... - 12/4/2008 1:45:53 AM
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Timcp,
Do you realize that taking the Lord's name in vain doesn't mean saying Oh my God (God isn't his name) or saying Jesus Christ?
Taking the Lord's name in vain means claiming you follow Him and living a life contrary. It's also about making vows to God and having no intention of actually doing it.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not condoning people using Jesus Christ as a curse word or God but just letting you know that simply saying Oh my God isn't what talking the Lord's name in vain means.
Maybe we need a clarification from the liguists. If one generally uses these terms when one means the inifinate personal creator who called Abraham out of Ur and spoke to Moses out of the burning bush, would that be the same? (inhale) It sure is hard to say what you mean in one breath when you don't have clearly define terms that you can use.
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